| His first encounter was at the front in Lekeitio. After spending Easter week in Gernika, they went up to Elgeta. Anecdotes from the front; the story of the cross he bought in Lourdes in 1934.(09:40") They left Elgeta and they saw the bombing of Gernika from the Fuero It began after lunch and in two hours they whole place was destroyed.From there they went to the Cantabric; events. They joined up with the Italians. (21:10”) He was a prisoner in Burgos. They even took away his cross. They made declarations. For him it was not a difficult situation. Being there, they did not kill people and they had masses. After being there for five months, he was taken to a quarry in Altsasu/Alsasua and put to work. They slept in the storeroom of the station. Two brothers came to visit him and they told him that his mother had died.Later he was taken to Aragón and Teruel to work on the railway line. He was wounded there.